Southwestern Sales Talk
When I wrote, “I decided today to go with the Southwestern Company to wherever the heck it is we’re going to sell books this summer” in my journal on March 27, 1996, I had no idea I’d be with the same company a decade and a half later. At the time, I just wanted to do something where I could earn some money to help pay for out of state tuition at UNC-Chapel Hill when my scholarship ran out.
This will be the first of a series of entries about why a 32-year-old with the resume and skill set more developed than most 55 year olds would continue to work with the same company he started with as a freshman in college. Although I can’t speak for them, it may explain why other people enjoy working here as well. Even if you aren’t interested in why I or anyone else work with Southwestern, you’ll probably like some of the insights I’ll share that I’ve gained from the 50,000+ conversations I’ve had with people as a result of this career.
Is/Do/About:
The above three words outline the framework of an important distinction for defining any organization or activity.

Oftentimes people use them interchangeably or merge them together, but they are not the same. For instance, I played football in high school. If someone had never heard of football and asked, “What is football?” most people would say, “A sport where…” and begin do describe the “do” part, as in “what the participants ‘do’.” By applying the distinction above, understanding organizations and their roles becomes easier and more meaningful:
Football IS a sport.
In football, players DO:
Give up afternoons to wear heavy pads in hot conditions where someone in an authority position tells them what to do for several hours. Some of these instructions include (but aren’t limited to) running as fast as possible to a location only to turn around immediately and run back to the point from which one has just come until one’s legs feel as if they will fall off, running into another man in such a way that he is unable to move freely or is lying on the ground; slamming one’s body into a very heavy metal object with thin padding, etc.
What football is ABOUT:
Moving an oblong ball across a painted line and preventing another team from doing the same.
Anyone who has never played the game or doesn’t understand the game may believe the “about” statement above is true. In actuality, that statement is just a further description of what one “does” who plays the game.
Anyone who’s ever played the game or understands the game gets that football is really ABOUT:
Winning, teamwork, discipline, competition, camaraderie, challenge, success, failure, resiliency, mental toughness, breaking belief barriers, setting and achieving goals, personal growth, courage, responsibility, glory, and the list goes on.
The reason people give up huge portions of their free time to play football, or any other sport, is not because of what you DO. It’s because of what it’s ABOUT.
The reason I have chosen to stay with Southwestern for nearly a decade and a half is because of what we’re ABOUT:
Southwestern IS: A company started in 1868. To someone who’s never worked with us before Southwestern is a summer program for college age students.
The students who work with Southwestern DO: Knocking on doors to sell educational stuff far away from the comforts of home for a grueling amount of hours with no guaranteed pay.
What Southwestern is ABOUT: Being the best organization in the world at helping young people develop the skills and character they need to achieve their goals in life.
I understand that it may not be glowingly obvious how the “DO” part could possibly connect to the “ABOUT” part. That’s what I’ll write about in my next entry. So what about your company? Can you apply the Is/Do/About formula to it? What does it look like? We welcome your comments.


This is awesome, Lester. I’m excited for your next posts. There are so many similarities to working with Southwestern and playing sports. That’s one of the reasons I’ve enjoyed it so much – you get out of it what you put in.
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Lester was my student manager selling books.
My first summer I saved probably $6,000. My second summer I saved about $13,000 and used it to travel around the world to Thailand, India, Egypt and Europe over 6 months. I’m not kidding.
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Is/do/about is one of the simplest, yet most profound concepts I’ve seen in a while. I can’t think of a better way to help someone just learning about Southwestern to fully grasp it’s many intangible benefits. Kudos Lester. Looking forward to part dos.
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Only… you change peoples lives at Southwestern… In football you only change yourself and a few teammates, not the millions of overweight fans watching you to escape from reality… Same goes with most JOBS, yeah you help yourself by barely earning enough to keep your family afloat… and maybe retire if your company doesn’t take away your pension, or you lose half your IRA
Sorry, if this sound NEG, but it’s true.
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I think this is so great, Lester. It presents the simplest “rule” of life; if you work hard you will earn the rewards. My generation is accustomed to getting everything they want in a moment’s notice and then they are hit with the hard reality of the working world after graduation. The Southwestern Internship program not only teaches us the work ethic need to be successful, but also generously rewards our efforts.
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Lester,
This is awesome! I might just have to borrow this concept when I’m training my first-year students…
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